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- How long will the eTrex retain tracks, routes,
and waypoints without power?
- How can I perform a factory reset of my eTrex?
- Does the battery meter on the yellow Garmin
etrex read "full" when using freshly charged NiMH rechargeable
batteries?
- How much battery current the basic yellow
eTrex uses
- What sort of processor is in the eTrex?
- eTrex points me everywhere but where my waypoint
actually is!
- eTrex locks up during operation
- eTrex won't switch on
- Does the eTrex track log include a timestamp?
- Backlight and external
power
- Improving the eTrex reception?
- Tracks and track logs
- Waypoint
marking and datums
- Maximum
data cable length
- Which
batteries are best?
- Are there any hidden features
on the eTrex?
- Is it possible to modify
the software myself?
- What is the best way to carry
my eTrex (reception)?
- Uploading multiple tracks
- Autozoom
- eTrex as speedometer
- eTrex altitude capability
- Uploading latest firmware
- How accurate is the eTrex clock?
- Incorrect odometer reading when walking
- Do GPS receivers present any radiation
health risks?
- Etrex cant communicate with PC - troubleshooting
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Q. How long will the eTrex retain tracks, routes, and waypoints
without power?
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A. First, some background: The eMap and eTrex have a problem
that other Garmin units do not. With other Garmin units, a backup
battery powers both the local time-of-day clock and the waypoint
memory. This battery is good for a couple of months, but for longer
term storage you must keep batteries in the GPS. Thus, normally
the real-time clock is valid. If the unit has been stored for
several months without batteries, *all* user memory is lost, and
the unit is forced to do an "autolocate" to figure out
where it is - and it knows that because of the loss of memory.
The eMap and eTrex use non-volatile memory for waypoints, so
you can store them forever without batteries, and without losing
waypoints or other info. So, people are more likely to do that.
However, there is still a time-of-day clock that needs power.
There is apparently a backup capacitor or battery that will power
it for a short time (weeks?), but after that it stops.
So, if an eMap/eTrex have been stored for several weeks without
batteries, their local time clock may be terribly wrong - but
the unit doesn't know this, so it looks for the wrong satellites.
On the eMap, you can pop up a menu while the unit is acquiring,
and select "saved without battery". That tells the eMap
that the clock contains garbage, and it needs to initiate a satellite
search without using it. Once one satellite is found, the unit
knows the approximate time again and can continue normally.
I don't think there is any user-selectable way around this problem
with the eTrex - you just have to wait several minutes for it
to figure out that normal acquisition has failed, and automatically
switch to "autolocate" mode. - Dave Martindale
Does the battery meter on the yellow Garmin etrex read "full"
when using freshly charged NiMH rechargeable batteries?
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A. I have found my NiMH batteries usually only indicate
about 90% when freshly charged.
A set of GP 1600mAh AA batteries, straight off my charger are
currently reporting 2.6V in the eTrex diagnostic mode and showing
about 90% charge on the battery indicator.
Having tried batteries with differing states of charge the eTrex
seems to need approximately 2.7 volts (as reported by my eTrex
in diagnostic mode) to get a battery full indication.
I guess some brands of NiMH may hold a higher average voltage,
and will therefore show closer
to full. - Ben Johnson
A. Yes - Garmin
Does anyone know what the battery saver mode does?
Q. Does anyone know what the battery saver mode does? (In
the eTrex Yellow.) Does it affect the details of tracking or route
following? (I presume there's some sort of compromise. Otherwise
they would just turn it on permanently.) - Gerry
A. The main thing that battery saver does is turn off
the receiver for periods up to 5 seconds or so when it appears
that you're not moving, or travelling in a straight line at constant
speed. If you start changing direction or speed, the firmware
automatically reduces or eliminates the receiver-off periods.
Since the track log algorithm automatically saves only infrequent
points when you're going in a straight line at constant speed,
even in "normal" mode, I don't know whether "battery save" would
make any difference to the track. Where it *does* make a difference
is in tracking satellites in weak-signal conditions like a forest.
In battery saver mode, the receiver section has to re-lock to
the satellite signals every time it's turned on. It has a pretty
good idea of where to look for those signals, and normally the
reacquisition happens very fast - when the signals are strong.
But in "normal" mode, the receiver runs continuously, and it once
locked to a signal it can "hang onto" it even when it gets weak
- too weak to acquire in the first place. Under these conditions,
battery saver mode can cause you to lose satellites that would
be tracked in normal mode. In addition, the GPS doesn't even bother
looking for satellites that are close to the horizon in battery
save mode. - Dave Martindale
Does anyone know how much battery current the basic yellow eTrex
uses?
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Q. Does anyone know how much battery current the basic yellow
eTrex uses.
A. 110-130 mA. Add 80 mA for backlight. - Mark
Does the eTrex track log include a timestamp?
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Q. I've been comparing my etrex with a friends GPS12. He
says his GPS12 trackback log includes position (x,y)and timestamp,
but no altitude. I know the etrex stores altitude, but does it store
a timestamp? - Ido
A. First, neither the GPS 12 nor the eTrex have a "trackback
log". Both units also have a "trackback" function, but it operates
differently in the two units. They both do have a "track log"
which records where you've been while the GPS is turned on and
navigating. There is a timestamp in the track log of both units
so you can calculate speed. The eTrex also has the ability to
store "saved tracks". When you've collected a track log for a
while, you can ask the eTrex to save it as a named path. When
this is done, the track log is compressed by removing points until
it's below a certain size and then it is stored. The timestamps
are *not* stored in saved tracks. The eTrex "trackback" function
uses a saved track as its path. - Dave
A. Only on the current tracklog, not on the saved tracklogs.
- Povl H. Pedersen
eTrex won't switch on
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Q. I tried to turn my eTrex on tonight, and nothing. Tried
fresh batteries, another set of fresh batteries, and still nothing.
I had left it turned on accidentally all last night and when I woke
up this morning and went to get it, it was almost flat, but working
fine. I took the batteries out for the day to charge them and when
I put them back in tonight... dead. Tried the reset function, cleaned
the terminals, nothing. No likely water ingestion. Normal temperature
conditions. No other significant factors. - Ben Johnson
A. Try a different set of new batteries. - Sean McConnell
A. There is a possibility that the EPROM that store the
unit's programming have lost their information due to the total
loss of battery voltage. If you have the capability, you could
try to reprogram the eTrex. Good luck! - Frank
A. Contact Garmin customer service. I had the same problem.
One morning I couldn't turn it on. Don't know whether it was a
dead switch or software. Garmin had it back in a bit over a week,
but that won't help you this weekend. FWIW I try not to leave
any unit with a back up battery without a main batteries. I keep
a set of alkalines around for 'standby' service. Even batteries
so run down they can't operate the unit, will off load the backup
while you are charging the other set. - Roger Russell
A. Not more than an hour after reading your post, my new
Venture crapped out--only 4 days old! Screen locked then I removed
and replace the batteries. When nothing happened on the screen
after the ON button was depressed, I was depressed.... and I just
put the handle bar mount on my bike and was headed out for my
first ride!.... oh well, so I won't know my location. I'll just
have to fall back on that old adage, "Wherever I go, there I am".
I feel your pain, man! I may try leaving the batteries out until
Sunday morning and then put 'em back in and hope for a miracle.
You never know. If that doesn't work, I hope they're as quick
on the turn around as Roger Russell says. - John Clulow
eTrex locks up during operation
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Q. My eTrex sometimes locks up and none of the buttons
seem to work?
A. Had my Vista lock up on me a few times. Once was in
Paris where pressing back-arrow while searching for attraction
would lock it up. It wouldn't show any typed letter, which is
why I then backspaced. Removing power helped. Another thing to
try is to try and short the +/- inside the battery compartment
nearer the top of the unit. That will discharge any leftover power
inside the unit. - Povl H. Pedersen
A. I have had to remove the batteries, and then put them
back in. Seemed to start up without any problems. - Ben Johnson
Having trouble going to a waypoint
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Q. I just bought the yellow Garmin eTrex. It is supposed
to work under heavy foliage and tree canopy. When I get out into
the pines it points me everywhere but where my waypoint actually
is. I still have a lock on the satellites also. I want to use this
to walk to my deerstand in the dark but I think this thing will
have me going in all directions. I know this is the bottom end Garmin
GPS, but it is supposed to work under these conditions. What experience
do others have with this same model? Is there another model you
recommend for my needs? - Steve
A. Under similar circumstances, prefer to I use a separate
magnetic compass in combination with eTrex BEARING information.
The standard eTrex heading info is basically useless when walking
in thick scrub or forest, but bearing info is very accurate at
any point you are getting decent reception. - Ben Johnson
A. Likely you are thinking that GPS receivers have compasses
inside which they generally do not. The standard eTrex does not
in any case. If you have a reliable lock and are moving at maybe
5 or 6 mph or more, the "heading" display will give you a fairly
reliable pointing angle. This is what many people mistake for
a "compass". As you slow to a stop, it no longer has the information
to plot your path reliably. Always use the BEARING (to the next
waypoint) readout as it is reliable whenever you have a good lock.
But when hiking, always use a compass to read your HEADING. -
Joe Mehaffey
What sort of processor does the eTrex use?
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All eTrex models are using an ARM processor, which is a 32-bit
CPU. This processor does about 1 MIPS pr. MHz. Even the older ARM7
core does 1 MIPS/MHz. In comparison the 386DX does 0.3 MIPS/MHz,
and the 386SX is 0.25 MIPS/MHz. - Povl H. Pedersen
Incorrect odometer reading when walking - March 6, 2001
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Q. Recently I went on a hike with my Etrex Summit. It
was a mountainous terrain. The GPS Odometer recorded a total distance
of 19.9 km. But after coming home I downloaded the data to Gartrip
(latest demo version) and on the plot it shows that I had walked
23.6km. I notice that along the path there were small sections
where the GPS had lost signals and hence no track points recorded.
This would have been due to the mountainous terrain or due to
having the GPS inside the jacket when it started to rain. I was
wondering whether the distance recorded on the GPS odometer is
only the distance along which the GPS recorded data. Therefore
excludes any length of track where GPS signals are temporarily
lost. But apparently Gartrip calculates the total distance irrespective
of any duration where GPS signals are lost. I would very much
appreciate if any one could comment on this problem, or has any
one experienced this problem before. - Pujitha
A. Breaks in track do not appear to be bridged when
computing odometer distance. GPS odometer readings are excellent
at normal vehicle speeds but poor when walking. The sky view
in a vehicle is seldom blocked long enough to lose lock where
as this it is a common occurrence when walking. Other walking
speed odometer problems include the low speed cutout that assumes
any speed below some threshold to be noise. This was quite necessary
while selective availability was in effect, else a stationary
receiver would accumulate several miles over night. Without
SA the threshold can be reduced, but you wouldn't like the results
if there was no threshold at all. - Roger Russell
Backlight won't auto power off when using external power
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Q. Just noticed the backlight on my Etrex will not switch
off automatically when plugged into external power.
A. The timed switch-off of the backlight does not occur
on my eTrex either when using external power. However, when
the eTrex is in auto backlight mode using battery power, the
screen will automatically light up when the arrival or turn
ahead alarm is activated. This does not work on external power
since the light is always on. Since the eTrex lacks an audible
alarm, I was hoping to use the backlight coming on as a visual
alert when driving at night, when the arrival or turn alarms
were activated. I typically will not keep it lit constantly
when driving to avoid the distraction. But if you have it on
external power, the backlight cannot be used as a visual alarm.
A. Some correspondence someone had with Garmin about
this.
"It has come to my attention that when the etrex is
connect to external power via the connector the backlight
timer will not function. When I drive at night I like the
fact that the back light comes on when I approach a waypoint.
As I understand it if I connect it to external power this
will not work. Will you be changing this in a future firmware
update? If not I plan to build a car adapter that can be attached
directly to the battery terminals. Will this solve the problem?
Thank you Pete H."
"Dear Mr. H,
Thank you for your message to GARMIN. You have brought something
to my attention that I was not aware of. I put the eTrex to
the acid test and you are indeed correct. I will mention this
to the software engineers and it may be included in the next
update. The functionality as you described is evident and
we are responsive to good suggestions. I cannot promise that
it will happen, and there may be reasons that it is selected
against, but it is more than worthy of mention. As far as
building your own cables to the battery terminals, I caution
that a surge would more than likely cook the board. Be cautious.
Thank you again for your message.
Best Regards,
Thad McCanse
GARMIN INTERNATIONAL"
Improving the eTrex reception? Thomas Piff (Submitted
March 6, 2001)
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While flying commercially, I had to jam my etrex against the
window to get any inkling of aircraft speed. Move away and forget
it ! I couldn't receive when I moved away from airplane window.
Then I cradled top end (internal antenna) in a piece of aluminum
foil from my lunch and it started picking up satellites ! Not
very scientific but it worked. I don't think that this causes
multiple path errors since any bounces and reflections are so
close to the internal antenna. Try it in a house when you move
away from window just enough to lose reception. - Thomas Piff
Tracks and track logs
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Q. What is the maximum # of trackpoints in the active
track log before the unit starts to reuse points? Does it start
reusing from the beginning of the tracklog or does it reuse "less
important" points, thus still showing the entire route (but with
less resolution)?
A. It is only 1536 points with software version 2.10,
and saved tracks are only 125-128 points. - Povl H. Pedersen
Q. Is the frequency purely time based or is it based somewhat
on current travel (for example, fewer trackpoints are necessary
for a straight path than for curvy path and/or based on travel
speed)? - Jerry Riechert
A. It is based on travel. When you are going straight
it will drop fewer then when you are making a lot of turns.
- Garmin
A. The eMap and eTrex use a proprietary algorithm in
the management of the tracklog. The principle of operation broken
down to the simplest level is this: The units are both capable
of detecting speed and direction of travel to manage and allocate
trackpoints. If you are at a constant speed, with a constant
direction of travel, the unit will conserve more points. If
you are varying your speed greatly, or making numerous turns,
the unit will use more trackpoints to help enhance the accuracy
of the tracklog for purposes of trackback. In both units, the
average speed will largely determine the number of points dropped.
The eMap is currently slightly more advanced in this respect
than the eTrex, although it is very likely that the eTrex will
catch up in later software updates. If you are moving slow,
(on foot) the eTrex will drop more points, more quickly than
the eMap. The eMap will trend to be more conservative so that
in an automotive application, (say driving in town at slower
speeds), the unit does not exhaust the trackpoints as fast as
the distance covered on average per trip will be longer. The
eMap will still use trackpoints accordingly to provide safe
and reliable trackback navigation on foot. The eTrex in the
current software version will give fantastic detail in tracklog
recording, but at the price of consuming a tracklog more quickly
in an automotive environment vs. on foot. No specific details
on calculations are available as this technology is proprietary
and key to maintaining a competitive products. The frequency
of trackpoints being used fully automatic, and without disclosing
the actual manner of calculation, there is no way to give a
prediction of the actual number of trackpoints to be used in
a specific operational state. - Garmin
Q. If I set up the track back function on my etrex, is
it possible to jump into the track at any point other than the
beginning or end? Can the etrex "pick up the trail" from any point
I intersect the back track? - Larry
A. Yes you can drop back into the track at any time
but it takes a while for the etrex to work this out - after
a 100m or so you will notice the compass rose swing around and
start to head you in the right direction. - L. Cooper
Q. I recently bought an etrex and I've been playing with
it to see what it can do. I downloaded a copy of Gartrip and looked
at the track data and I see that there are no dates on the first
few tracks I saved? Somehow I inadvertently saved the whole track
log later on and that data shows up labeled "Active Log" and all
of its dates are correct? Is this a bug? Why didn't the earlier
data get timestamped?
A. No, it sounds completely normal. The "Active Log"
is the main tracklog and is the one that the eTrex automatically
adds points to whenever the unit is locked-on and moving. This
main tracklog is the only one that has time/date stamps associated
with each point. When you save the track on the eTrex, a condensed
copy of the active log is written to one of the ten stored log
locations - the stored logs do not have any time/date stamps.
When you upload to Gartrip, the 'Active Log' and any stored
logs are all uploaded. You can use the editing functions of
Gartrip to eliminate unwanted tracks if desired.
Waypoint marking and datums
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Q. When
I mark a waypoint on my eTrex, is the info saved in absolute coordinates
or is it saved relative to the 'datum' configuration? What I'm
getting at is this: I mark a bunch of waypoints and go home and
bring them up on my mapping software and discover I had the eTrex
'datum' set for WGS 84 and the software is based on NAD 27. I
assume that if I import the waypoints as is, there'll be errors.
The question I have is this. If I change the GPS datum to NAD
27 and then import the waypoints, will the positions now be accurate,
or have the waypoints been corrupted? - Mike Fox
A. Everything
(tracks, routes, waypoints) is saved internally in WGS-84 -no
matter what you have the GPS set to. No, you can't 'corrupt'
your waypoints with a mis-set datum... If your software is Ozi
or Fugawi, the software knows what the map datum is and adjusts
the incoming WGS-84 data accordingly before displaying it on
the map... Real-time tracks, however are different... The NMEA
data from Garmins (ONLY!!!) is in the datum set in the GPS...
All other manufactures use the NMEA standard of WGS-84... Ozi
is the only program I know of that can handle this mishmash
of NMEA datums, but there may be others... - Jack
A.
If the waypoints were marked while you were at those locations,
the datum doesn't matter.
A. I think there is a circumstance
where an incorrect receiver setting can result in corrupt waypoints.
This is quite different to what the original poster was concerned
about, but is worth being careful of. If the format is set to
a grid that is invalid in for where you currently are, an updated
waypoint can (will?) be wrong. I discovered this with a 12XL
on a journey between Ireland and UK. In Ireland I had the format
set to Irish grid but forgot to change it to OSGB on the return
journey. At a motorway service station in UK, I tired to update
the waypoint for it I had entered from a small scale map. The
resulting waypoint moved several hundred km. What seems to have
happened is that I was outside the area covered by the Irish
grid but the 12XL tried to interpret the position as being within
in the Irish grid area. - Allen Oliver
Maximum data cable length
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Q. I've just finished my do-it-yourself
serial port connection between my eTrex and my PC. Lots of fun
checking out SA Watch and Visual GPS. But... I now realize that
view of the sky was NOT one of the criteria I used in setting
up my desk top computer. So I need to know: How LONG can I make
the eTrex-to-serial port cable, given the rather low-speed data
transfer taking place? As a supplemental question: what would
be a good type of wire? I kind of thought telephone four conductor
wire would be good. Its got nice connectors, and I've accumulated
a large collection of various lengths over the years. - John
Morriss
A. I have made a serial cable
for my GPSII+ 10m(33ft) from the same cable so that I can operate
my GPS outdoors while connected to my PC. No problems. -
Neville
A. I use six feet of 4-conductor
flat telephone cable with an RJ-11 and an ePlug. Works fine.
Just for grins, I added another 50 feet of cable. My regulated
3.3 volts dropped to 1.8 (1.1 volts on the eTrex diagnostic
screen plus 0.7 volt), but the data survived that length. I'm
having a hard time understanding the voltage drop, though. I'll
look at the current. - Tom Becker
A. I have about 25 feet of 4
conductor phone cord. No power though. I think your guess at
the .7 internal voltage drop is wrong, though. I measured my
Garmin-labelled adapter, attached to my eTrex. It provides 3.15VDC,
and the internal readout indicates 2.71 VDC (not the .6 drop
that I would expect from a diode) The batteries were supplying
2.59, indicating 2.46 on the internal display, also not a drop
I can decipher ;-)
A. Maximum data cable length: The EIA-232 spec says
50 feet, but the eTrex is a tiny little device with low-power
transceivers. If your cable has high capacitance, it might not
be able to drive the load. Slower baud rates (try 2400 if both
ends support it) will give the line drivers more time to slew
the signals around, and might be able to squeak through a very
long cable. Your PC's serial port will also play a part, different
ports might be more or less sensitive to signals that don't
satisfy the voltage swing requirements. Twisted-pair wire will
be more immune to interference than
straight "flat phone cord" style wire. Likewise, shielded
cable is better
than unshielded. (Ground the shield at one end only.)
As for powering the unit over a very long cable, thicker wire
is better. Many cheap phone cords are tinsel, equivalent to
26ga or worse. Cat-5 is 24ga and should work fine, especially
if you use all the extra conductors for power. With 8 conductors
in the cable, use 2 for data, 3 for power, and
3 for ground. Pair each data conductor with a ground for best
noise rejection. Never pair transmit and receive with each other,
the crosstalk would be huge! Also consider mounting the voltage
regulator near the GPS itself, rather than at the far end of
the cable. This way, any voltage losses in the cable will be
on the input side of the regulator, and it'll still provide
a clean 3V to the GPS unit. Don't forget to add a decoupling
capacitor on the input side of the regulator, since the long
cable might oscillate otherwise. And if you're going to have
a box of circuitry near the GPS itself, you might as well throw
in a few line drivers to clean up the RS232 signal before tossing
it onto a too-long cable.
On second thought, maybe just keeping the cables short would
be simpler! - Nate
Which batteries are
best?
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Q. I have been using Energizer
E2 Titanium, but today I found Energizer E2 Lithium. At $9.50
for 4 AA, they should be pretty good. I have tried Rayovac Maximum
and Duracell Ultra also, but no one brand has impressed me with
its staying power. If you have brand or type of battery you consider
outstanding, please post and let us all know why. - Mark
A. I'd recommend just about any brand of NiMH cell over
any single-use cell except under unusual circumstances. In my
eMap, the 1600 mA-hr NiMH cells give me about 10-11 hours of
use per charge as opposed to about 14 hours for a good alkaline.
But since the NiMHs can be recharged hundreds of times the overall
cost is far lower. I'm willing to carry a spare pair of AAs
with me on longer trips in exchange for eliminating the need
to repeatedly buy new batteries. Cost for a set of 4 cells plus
a smart charger is about $35 and also eliminates the need to
have a separate power cord for the GPS. - Peter Rathmann
A. The 1.5 V lithium cells are great as "backup" power
- a set of cells that you carry for emergencies but plan to
never use in normal circumstances. They have a very long shelf
life (10 years), are much lighter than alkalines, and work better
in the cold. They can also produce lots of current on demand,
which makes them useful for cameras and electronic flash where
they will outperform alkalines. But they actually have less
capacity than alkalines, and are horrendously expensive for
normal use. As others have said, use NiMH rechargeables if you
use your GPS receiver very much at all. You'll get about 2/3
the operating time of alkalines, while being able to recharge
them hundreds of times so the operating cost is very low. Around
here, I can buy 4 NiMH cells for *less* than 4 single-use lithium
AAs. Also, if you have electronic flash or a digital camera
or other power- hungry electronic device, the NiMH cells are
also capable of large discharge current without losing capacity,
just like the expensive lithium cells. NiMH will work far longer
than alkalines under these conditions. - Dave
A. Type of battery is quite sensitive to the intended
use. NiCd's are almost indescrtructible, but often don't have
especially high capacity, and have a very flat discharge characteristics,
they go dead with very little warning, and the self discharge
at about 1% of capacity per day. NiMh has somewhat higher capacity,
and similar characteristics, but the self discharge rate is
higher, on the order of 1.5% of capacity per day. Alkalines
are good choice for high current applications and reasonable
shelf life (a couple years), however at low currents, the advantage
over conventional Zinc-Carbon batteries doesn't justify the
cost differential. Li-Ion are neat, but require a computer controlled
charger, and the device needs to run on a multiple of 3 volts.
Lithium's AA have high capacity, but what they really excel
in is shelf life. If you don't use something very often, but
you want to be sure it works when you need it, the Lithium batteries
are the way to go. Shelf life often approaches 10 years. They
also have high capacity, but don't tolerate very high current
draw very well. - Matt Weber
A. An option to run for longer from Ni-MH cells would
be welcome, given these receivers' appetite for batteries. It
may well be that the unit will operate accurately below the
present cutout threshold designed for 1.5v cells, but the user
has no way of assessing this. - Mike F
Are there any hidden features on the eTrex?
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A. Yes. Try holding down the PAGE and PAGE UP buttons
while you power the unit up. The unit will enter the service
mode and display:
Bravo Version
Software Version
Time
Internal temperature of unit
Battery voltage
External voltage
Button presses
Other tech info
You can do a LCD screen check by pressing the PAGE button twice
Caution: While entering the service mode is interesting
and useful, be careful which buttons you press because it is
also possible to rest the unit to factory settings within this
mode. Pressing "up"+"enter"+"on/off" keys in service mode will
reset the eTrex to factory defaults. All presets and data will
be lost.
To exit just turn it off as normal, and then turn it back on
as normal. Unless you deliberately reset the GPS, nothing should
have changed. - Ben J
A. This is about invoking the service mode in eTrex.
I recently bought an eTrex Vista, and upgraded its firmware
from 2.12 to 2.16. I tried to invoke the service mode as mentioned
in the FAQ, but it didn't work. But, well, I figure it out.
In eTrex Vista, with firmware 2.16, press in and hold the click-stick
while turning on the device. That will invoke the service mode.
I hope this will be useful for others to know. - Jatin 24Jun01
Is it possible to modify the software myself?
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A. Yes. Visit http://www.etrex.webz.cz/hack.html
for details - Ben J
What is the best way to carry my eTrex?
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A. Unfortunately, the antenna on the etrex is somewhat
fussy about how it's positioned. It prefers to be close to horizontal
to work the best, but if you have a good view of the sky, you
can generally get away with just about any position. Your body
also presents a problem, as it blocks some of the satellite
signals. I've found that the next best thing to carrying my
etrex in front of me in my hand is to put it on my shoulder,
but I generally have a pack on, and find it very convenient
to clip it to a my pack strap. Since you're not using a pack,
maybe you could jury rig something. Finally, loosing the satellite
lock while you're not using your etrex is only a problem if
you're trying to create a fairly accurate tracklog. I've found
it regains a position fix quickly enough to still be a good
navigational aid for following routes, or guiding me to a specific
waypoint. Good luck finding a carrying method that works for
you. - Jeff
A. I have an etrex and I hike in forested area's a lot.
My etrex looses the satellites when I dangle it around my neck
with the cord that comes with it. When I lay it on top of my
backpack it doesn't loose track, but it's not a very handy place
to keep it. I've tried to just put in in my pocket with mixed
results.
A. I have mounted a Garmin handlebar mount to a wood
dowel through my hiking staff. The eTrex seems to perform well
mounted this way. - Chuck Rushton
A. Wear a shirt with epaulets on the shoulders. Get
some sticky-back Velcro and stick it to the underside of the
GPS, with a gap in the middle so you don't cover the battery
release. Then, get some non-sticky-back "sew-on" velcro,
of the opposite gender. Place it under and at right angles to
the epaulet, so the velcro sticks out both sides. Then set the
GPS on top, so that the epaulet is caught between the velcro
sides. Secure the lanyard to something so you don't lose the
unit if it falls. If anyone asks about the odd fashion accessory,
tell them you're a pirate and the little yellow thing is your
parrot. They should leave you alone after that...
If you're out hiking, a hat isn't a bad idea either. Sewing
some velcro to the top of your hat will create a nice nest for
your eTrex where it can watch the satellites whenever you're
not using it. A serious geek would include solar panels and
a Pfranc plug to power the unit while it's up
there. In situations like this it would be nice to be able to
turn off the
backlight while on external power. - Nate
Uploading multiple tracks
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Q. I hear things about GarTrip being able to upload tracks
to the etrex instead of 20 routes. In this way I could use trackback
to navigate me and have 20 "routes" programmed at home.
A. First you need a track in GARtrip (either loaded
from a GPS or drawn by hand). You can then either load it into
the eTrex's active Log and then save it as a saved track. Or,
you can download it directly into a saved track. To download
it as a saved track you need to write a name for the saved track
in the text field of first track point in GARtrip - use GARtrip's
track edit function. If the track is larger than 250 points
(500 in the eTrex Summit) it is better to load it into the active
log and then save it. The eTrex will optimise the compression
it uses to suit the length of the original track.
Autozoom
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Q. How does the autozoom work?
A. I'll explain how autozoom works with my etrex while
flying our skyhawk. I enter a route with several waypoints (typically
navaids) and select to follow it to the destination airport.
In autozoom mode the scale will automatically be displayed such
that the first waypoint (on the route) is on the screen. As
I fly closer to that waypoint the scale automatically zooms
to a closer scale ( say from 12 mi. to 8 mi.;then continues
with 5 mi., 3 mi., 2 mi., 1.2 mi., 0.8 mi., 0.5 mi., 0.3 mi.,
0.2 mi., 800 ft., 500 ft., 300 ft., and then 200 ft.). After
passing that waypoint (on the route) the etrex autozooms out
again to give a scale whereby the NEXT waypoint (on the route)
is displayed on the screen. The etrex, once again, continues
zooming the scale as I approach that second waypoint (on the
route list). This continues until reaching the destination ("Follow
To") waypoint which is typically an airport. Note, that the
auto-zoom applies only to those waypoints that have been entered
into the route. The autozoom works similarly in the "Go To"
navigate mode but with just the single waypoint. - Shannon
eTrex as speedometer
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Q. I use an etrex as speedometer. There is a difference
of 5% to the >speedometer of my car. Which one should I trust?
I have the eTrex on the dashboard with very good signals. Does
it matter if the etrex is in a vertical position or in a horizontal
one I think not.
A. Don't trust anyone, Check for your self. However
when you have checked with a stopwatch and a measured mile (not
a mile off your odometer) you will find that the eTrex to be
either right on the spot or damn close. Position won't matter
as long as the eTrex shows it is getting good signals.
eTrex altitude capability
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The Etrex saves the elevation with each waypoint, and with each
trackpoint which you can then view when you download your tracks.
As a result, when used with the right software, you can view an
elevation profile of your trip on your computer. Not as convenient
as the etrex summit, but a useful tool for bragging rights after
a tough hike.
Uploading latest firmware
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Q. I want to put the new 2.10 software on my Garmin Etrex.
If I purchase the PC adapter cable, will I also need a power supply,
or can I run off batteries while the software is loading?
A. You can use batteries, but it is important to use
new batteries because power outage during flash programming
may force you to return your etrex to Garmin. (It is the same
problem as when you upgrade the bios of your PC) But if you
check it, no problem : I upgraded my etrex firmware 6 or 7 times
without failure.
How accurate is the eTrex clock?
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Q. I know this may sound like a "how long is a piece
of string" question, but I am curious how accurate the eTrex clock
is? Would it vary much with signal strength? - Ben J
A. I think as long as it has a lock on the satellites,
the clock should be very accurate, within 1 second. When it
has not 'seen' a satellite for a long time, i.e., used in door
or turned off for a day or two, the clock may drift, once it
locks on to a satellite, the clock will correct itself. I compared
the GPS time on my eMap to an Oregon Scientific atomic radio
clock (very very accurate in my experience), it seems the GPS
clock when has a satellite lock is usually within 1 second.
- Raymond Chi
A. Well, I had an etrex, and I have one of those radio
controlled Clocks from Radio shack, and the seconds always matched
each other right on. - Tellu
A. By design, a GPS clock needs to be incredibly accurate
to be accurate. An error of a few milliseconds makes a difference
across the distance between the user and the satellites.
Do GPS receivers present and radiation health risks?
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A. They are a receiver and do not actively transmit
any signal. The signal strength received from the satellites
is actually below the background noise level and the receivers
integrate over multiple signal transmissions to "cancel
out" the random noise.
They do have an oscillator in them like any normal wristwatch,
and this oscillator will emit a harmless frequency. There may
also be some very small re-radiation from the antennae, but
this would be tiny.
How do I perform a factory reset on my eTrex?
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A factory reset may help if you are having issues with the date
being displayed incorrectly, or other initialisation problems.
- Hold down the PAGE (top right button) and PAGE UP (top left
button) buttons down together and then simultaneously turn on
the unit. The unit will enter the service mode and display:
Bravo Version
Software Version
Time
Internal temperature of unit
Battery voltage
External voltage
Button presses
Other tech info
You can do a LCD screen check by pressing the PAGE button twice
- While entering the service mode is interesting and useful, be
careful which buttons you press because it is also possible to
rest the unit to factory settings within this mode. Pressing "up"+"enter"+"on/off"
keys in service mode will reset the eTrex to factory defaults.
All presets and data will be lost.
- To exit just turn it off as normal, and then turn it back on
as normal. Unless you deliberately reset the GPS, nothing should
have changed.
Etrex cant communicate with PC - troubleshooting
guide
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I recently had a problem with the yellow eTrex not communicating
with my pc
(win98 se). The eMap worked fine but the etrex could not be
recognized using
the same COM port and cable with the eTrex set for 'Garmin'
and the software
set for 'eTrex'. I received the following trouble shooting procedures
from
Garmin. They may be of interest to others 'just in case'. I
would presume
that they apply to all eTrex models.
Problem: Expert GPS with eMap communicates fine, confirming
that COM1 and cable are functioning. Unplug eMap, plug in eTrex
(Yellow),
set interfaces for Garmin, eTrex. "Device not responding."
Try to use
UPDATER with 2.11 .rgn file. "Device not responding".
(I had previously
updated the eTrex to 2.11 using this cable and settings.) Cleaned
contacts
on eTrex with pencil eraser. Applied slight pressure to connector
while
trying to communicate. No luck. Can you help? Thanks!....patrick
FIRST REPLY:
Thanks for contacting GARMIN,
Unit could have corrupt data causing it to perform incorrectly.
Please try
the following to correct (this will erase all user stored data):
with unit off press and hold "Enter" "PAGE"
and "On/Power" at the same time
when display appears take fingers off buttons
unit will display message that all user stored data will be
cleared, select
yes then press enter.
unit will flash off then come back on.
take outside for 15 to 25 minutes for re-initialization and
update (at this
point you may also try to interface with PC again.
Once unit has signal date should be correct. You may have to
adjust time
offset or zone for you area.
(PS-Please include all email correspondence already written
when you reply
to this email so that it can be answered in a timely manner.
Erasing the
text may mean a delay in response, or that the email does not
reach the
person(s) with whom you are communicating)
C.S. Wheeler
Product Support Specialist
GARMIN INTERNATIONAL, INC
1200 East 151st Street
Olathe Kansas 66062
SECOND REPLY:
Put the unit in NMEA OUT, and see if it will export NMEA sentences
in
hyperterminal:
1. No other programs are currently running:
a. Press Ctrl-Alt-Del (opens the close program window).
b. Choose end task for all items except: DO NOT CLOSE "Explorer"
or
"Systray"
c. Continue until every program is closed except: DO NOT CLOSE
"Explorer" or
"Systray"
d. Try the download again.
2. Confirm that Windows recognizes your COM port:
a. Right-click on "My Computer" Icon and select "properties."
b. Click on Device Manager
c. Confirm your COM port is listed with no errors marked.
3. If any other serial devices (PalmPilots, scanners, digitizers,
trackballs, serial mouse, etc.) you may need to uninstall or
disable the
drivers. You may need to contact the device manufacturer for
assistance.
Please check to ensure that NMEA data is flowing between your
GPS and PC:
You can test the NMEA output of your GPS on many computers as
follows:
First, set up your GPS for NMEA output:
1. Go to the Interface menu of your GPS (usually in the System
Menu)
2. Change the interface setting to NMEA, or No In, NMEA out.
3. Make sure the Baud rate indicates 4800 if shown.
Next, set up your computer to listen to the GPS as follows:
The following test works on Windows computers with Hyperterminal
installed.
1. Click on the Start button.
2. Select "Run..."
3. Type "Hypertrm" (do not type quotation marks) and
choose "OK."
4. Enter "GPS" for the name of the connection, and
choose "OK."
5. Skip country code, area code, and phone number.
6. Next to "Connect using," use the pull down menu
to select the comm port
that your GPS is connected to. (For example: Direct to Com 1)
then choose
"OK."
7. Port setting should be set as follows:
Bits Per Second: 4800
Data Bits: 8
Parity: None
Stop bits: 1
Flow control: Hardware
8. Select "OK" to approve settings.
Now, you should see strings of data (letters and numbers) scrolling
on the
screen. If the data is visible, then your GPS and computer are
able to
communicate. If not, please start back at step one and try with
another com
port selected (you may have to try several different ones).
If you find the
comm you are able to communicate on, make sure it is selected
to that comm
port or choose auto-detect in MapSource. Also, you may need
to disable other
devices that use the same com port.
C.S. Wheeler
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